President Trump humiliated ABC’s Terry Moran by revealing why he picked him for “the break of a lifetime” in getting to interview him on his 100th day in office.
The commander in chief put the senior national correspondent in his place during a tense exchange in which Moran challenged him about suspected MS-13 tattoos on deported illegal immigrant Kilmar Abrego Garcia.
“Hey, they’re giving you the big break of a lifetime, you know you’re doing the interview,” Trump said. “I picked you because frankly, I never heard of you.
“I picked you but you’re not being very nice,” he complained.
President Donald Trump and ABC News’ Terry Moran sit down during their one-on-one interview in the Oval Office of the White House on April 29, 2025. ABC News
The 78-year-old president’s comments marked an endpoint of the supposed gang affiliation tattoos Abrego Garcia sports.
Abrego Garcia became known after his national headline deportation from Maryland to his native El Salvador where he has been locked up since March 15.
Trump brought up the knuckle tattoos he had on his hand, which were purportedly a subtle hint of being a part of the violent Mara Salvatrucha gang.
“Wait a minute, he had ‘MS-13’ on his knuckles,” Trump said, referring to Abrego Garcia’s tattoos on his left hand.
“Oh, he had some tattoos that were interpreted that way,” Moran interjected before trying to ask another question.
President Trump looks up at Terry Moran as the two are behind the Resolute Desk in the Oval Office. ABC News
Abrego Garcia’s tattoos in question were sketched on the back left hand – a marijuana leaf, a smiley face, a cross and a skull.
Some interpreted the random symbols to be a pictorial for “M S 1 3.”
Moran attempted to change the topic but Trump persisted on correcting Moran.
“Wait a minute Terry, Terry don’t do that. It says MS-13,” he said referring to the graphic released by the White House to label the meaning behind Abrego Garcia’s ink.
Moran said the actual lettering on the graphic was photoshopped despite the president’s best efforts to explain himself.
“That was photoshopped? Terry, you can’t do that,” Trump said before tearing into the outlet’s senior national correspondent before calling him an unknown.
The comment about Moran’s notability wasn’t the only one the two had Tuesday night.
Moran had questioned Trump’s deportation of suspected gang members without hearings.
“The law is the law,” Moran pressed, but the president insisted that a “legal process” is being followed.
“They get whatever my lawyers say,” Trump said of the legal rights his administration is affording deportees.
President Donald Trump holds up an image of Kilmar Abrego Garcia’s knuckle tattoos in the Oval Office on April 18, 2025. Donald J. Trump/Truth Social
Moran brought up Abrego Garcia again where Trump called him dangerous.
“This is an MS-13 gang member, a tough cookie, been in lots of skirmishes, beat the hell out of his wife,” Trump said.
Abrego Garcia’s wife applied for a protective order against him in 2021 after he allegedly physically abused her.
President Donald Trump speaks during his first 100 days interview with ABC News. ABC News
ABC News’ Terry Moran questions President Donald Trump during Tuesday’s interview. ABC News
“OK? This is not an innocent, wonderful gentleman from Maryland,” he added.
Moran distanced himself from the conversation, saying was “not saying [Garcia] is a good guy.”
“It’s about the rule of law,” the ABC host continued.
Tensions heated up again when Moran pressed Trump on if he trusted Russian President Vladimir Putin.
“I don’t trust you,” Trump said. “I don’t trust a lot of people.”